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Josiah Prentice of Scotland and Surrey, England


Josiah Prentice of Scotland and Surrey, England
By Linus Joseph Dewald Jr., Editor
Winter 2006 and Revised 4 Jul 2011

Update of 4 Jul 2011: Josiah Prentice is #3.30 in our Winter 2004 article entitled John Prentice of Carluke, Scotland . That article now replaces this article.

Kerry Prentice has provided us with Prentice information which we report in in our Spring 2003 article about Josiah Prentice of Southwark, England and our Summer 2003 article about James Prentice of Edinborough, Scotland, etc. . We have now consolidated those earlier articles into this later article and have have augmented with census information.

1. Josiah Prentice was b. 9 May 1802, Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, Scotland, and d. either (1) 17 Nov 1850 in Bloomsbury, London, or (2) Dec 1850, St. Giles, London, Middlesex. He may have continued to live in Scotland until some date after the birth of his son, James, in 1826 in Scotland. Thereafter he appears in English census records. A Painter, he appears in the 1841 census in St. George the Martyr, Surrey, England with his family.

He m. Eliza Winsborrow, in 1939. Both then lived at 2 Wycomb Place, Kent Road, St Georges the Martyr, Southwark. Eliza Winsborrow was b. 22 Mar 1804 and bap. 14 Oct 1804, St Saviours, Southwark. She was the dau. of Richard and Ann Winsborrow.b. c. 1806 Surrey.

    Note: At least 2 of the childen shown below were b. before 1839, so she might have been a 2nd wife.

    By email of 6 Oct 2010, John Watt says that he thinksJosiah's first marriage, where he is recorded as Joseph Prentice, was to Jean Gow on 24 Jan 1826 at St Cuthberts Edinburgh and that Josiah is also recorded as a Painter which fits with later records. James Prentice b c1826 would be from this marriage. John Watt says he does not know what became Jean Gowl but suspects she died. John also poses a question as to why Josiah would change his name to Joseph in Edinburgh.

Known children per 1841 census:

  1. James William Prentice, b. c. 1826, Edinburgh, Scotland. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [2]
  2. Josiah Richard Prentice, b. c. 1837, Camberwell, London, chr. 7 May 1837 in St. George the Martyr, Surrey (per IGI) or at Holy Trinity, Newington (per Kerry Prentice)., Surrey. Died Mar 1893, Greater London, Kent. At home in 1841 in St. George the Martyr, Surrey. He m. Catherine Cuthbertson. She was b. 1835.
  3. Elizabeth Ann Prentice, b. 4 Feb 1839 and chr. 24 Feb 1839 in Holy Trinity, Newington, Surrey, England. At home in 1841 in St. George the Martyr, Surrey.
  4. Ann Sarah Prentice, b. 13 Apr 1841 and chr. 9 May 1841 at Holy Trinity, Newington, Surrey. At home in 1841 in St. George the Martyr, Surrey (per IGI).

2. James William Prentice, b. c. 1825-6, Edinburgh, Scotland (per 1861 census). At home in 1841 in St. George the Martyr, Surrey. He appears with his wife and family in the 1851 census in Sourthwark St. George, Surrey. He appears as a Fish Salesman in the 1861 census in Bermondsey, Surrey. He appears in the 1871 Bermondsey, St. Mary Mag. census living at 88 Albert Road and in the 1881 Camberwell, Surrey, England census as a Fish Salesman with his wife, Mary, b. c. 1827, Southwark, Surrey (per 1871 census) or Boney, Southend (per 1881 census). In 1881 they lived at 81 Trafalgar Rd., Camberwell,Surrey.

He m. Mary Ann Bennett in 1845, Lambeth, London. ,She was b. c. 1828, St. George, Southwark, and was the dau. of Mary Bennett (b. 1785). Children:

  1. Ann Prentice, b. c. 1842, Southwark. At home in 1851.
  2. James Prentice, b. c. 1848, Southwark, Surrey/London. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [3]
  3. Frederick Prentice, b. c. 1851, Borough Southwark, Fish Porter, Billingsgate. In 1881 census. In the 1871 census he is shown living at 88 Albert Rd., St. Mary Mag., Bermondsey, London. In 1881 he lived at 81 Trafalgar Rd., Camberwell, Surrey. He does not appear in the 1891 or 1901 census.
  4. Joseph Prentice, b. c. 1853, Borough Southwark, Fish Dealer, Billingsgate. In the 1871 census he is shown living at 88 Albert Rd., St. Mary Mag., Bermondsey, London. In 1881 he lived at 81 Trafalgar Rd., Camberwell, Surrey. He does not appear in the 1891 or 1901 census.
  5. Charles Prentice, b. c. 1855, Southwark, Surrey, and d. 22 Feb 1924, Nunhead, C'tery. In 1871 his residence was 88 Albert Rd., St. Mary Mag., Bermondsey, London. He m. Elizabeth Sophia Deane. She was b. 1847, St. Bartholmew, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, and d. 1900 in St. Olave, Southwark, Surrey. They had 1 or more children, including:
    1. Charles John Prentice, b. 21 Jun 1875, 14 Park St./, Bermondsey, and d. 29 Jul 1950, 23 Browning St., Southwark. He m. Ellen Margaret French/Bailey. She was b. 21 Dec 1878, Peckham, and d. 20 Apr 1918, Southwark. They had 1 or more children, including:
      1. Cecil Anthony Prentice, b. 26 Jan 1916, Southwark, Surrey, and d. 6 May 1971, Poynton with Worth, Chester. He m. Mary Edith Dicken. She was b. 29 Dec 1915, Birkenhead, UK, and d. 17 Sep 2006, St. Leonards, NSW, Australia. They had 1 or more children, including:
        1. John Prentice, b. 30 Nov 1940, Edgware, Middlesex. In 1955 he changed his name to John Watt because John's mother, Mary. divorced her husband, Cecil Prentice in 1948 and married Norman Watt. John Prentice/Watt m. Miss Hincks and had 3 sons and a dau. surnamed Watt.
  6. Robert Prentice, b. c. 1857, Southwark,Surrey. Not in 1881, 1891 or 1901 census. In 1871 his address was the same as Charles'.
  7. Alfred Prentice, b. c. 1860, St. George, Southwark. Not in 1871 and later census.
  8. Mary Prentice, b. c. 1862, Bermondsey, Surrey. Not in 1881 census. In 1871 her address was the same as Joseph's.
  9. Walter Prentice, b. c. 1868, Bermondsey. . . . . . [4]

3. James Prentice was b. c. 1848, Bermondsey, London, and died before 1901.

He married Fanny Elizabeth Mossman on 16 Dec 1869, St. Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey, ( per Cert.). She was the dau. of John Mossman and was b. c. 1845 in Malden, Bedfordshire (per 1881 census) or Bermondsey, London (per 1891 census), and died after 1891.

In 1881 they lived at 118 Grange Road, Bermondsey, London. In 1891 they lived at 370 Southwark Park Road, Bermondsey, London. Between 1869 and 1891 James was a Fish Porter. Children:

  1. James Prentice, b. 1870, Bermondsey, London. Not in 1891 and 1901 census.
  2. Agnes Prentice, b. 1871, Bermondsey, Surrey.
  3. Frances Louise Prentice, b. Sep 1871, Bermondsey, London. At home in 1881.
  4. Charles Prentice, b. c. 1872, Bermondsey, London.
  5. Laura Alice Prentice, b. Jun 1874, Bermondsey, London.
  6. Mary Adelaide Prentice, b. Sep 1875, St, Olave, Bermondsey, London, and d. c. 1930, Bermondsey. She m. Samuel Joseph George Vintner on 17 Apr 1897, S. St. Baptist. He was b. Mar 1875, Greenwich, London. An Ancestor for him can be found at Ancestry.com . Daughter:
    1. Alice Ester Amelia Vintner, b. 26 Dec 1899, Poplar, London, and d. 8 Feb 1970, Lambeth, London. She m. Frank Arthur Williamson on 9 Sep 1924, St. Martin in the fields, London. He was b. 26 Dec 1903, St. Giles, London, and d. 19 Dec 1967, Lewisham, London. Son:
      1. Eric Frank Williamson, b. 19 Feb 1925, London, England, and d. 17 Oct 2005, Adelaide, Australia. He m. Miss Slayford and ad 2 sons.

  7. Lilian Maud Prentice, b. Jun 1877, Bermondsey, London.
  8. Kate Prentice, b. Dec 1878, Bermondsey, London.
  9. Alfred Prentice, b. c. 1881, Bermondsey, London.
  10. Daisey Edith N. Prentice, h. Dec. 1881, Bermondsey, London.
  11. William Henry Prentice, b. Sep 1884, Bermondsey, London.
  12. Agnes Mable Prentice, b. Mar 1888, St. Olave, Bermondsey, London.
  13. Bertram Leonard Prentice, b. 12 pr 1889, Bermondsey, London, and d. 11 Mar 1967, Jersey Co., Channel Islands, UK. He m. Ellen Maud Mauger. She was b. 1 Nov 1891, Jersey Co., Channel Islands, UK, and d. there on 4 Mar 1983. Children per Ancestry.com:
    1. (dau.) Prentice.
    2. (dau.) Prentice. She m. Mr. Wheeler and had a son and 3 daughters.
    3. Nellie Isobelle Prentice, b. 1 May 1916 and d. later that same year on 31 Dec 1916.

    4. Walter Prentice, b. c. 1868, Bermondsey, and d. 19 Sep 1944.

    He m. Daisy Ellen Bagley. She was b. 1879, Battersea, and d. 30 Sep 1956, Streatham, Surrey. She was the dau. of William and Carrie Bagley. Children per Ancestry.com :

    1. (dau.) Prentice
    2. George Prentice, b. 6 Nov 1902, Bermondsey, London, and d. 12 Jul 1989, Catford, England.
    3. Mary Prentice, b. 1904, Lambeth, England.
    4. Rosina Ivy Prentice, b. 1909, Southwark, England, and d. Mar 2004, London, Surrey
    5. Dorothy M. Prentice, b. Mar 1912, London, and d. 11 Oct 2001, London, England.

    Who are Josiah Prentice's Parents?

    Josiah Prentice may, or may not, be the Josiah Prentice who is #1vii(f) in our Winter 2005 article about James Prentice of Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland son of Robert Prentice and Catharine Mann, and who we shown as b. 9 Aug 1802, Cambusnethan and about whom we have no further information.

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